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Hola amigos,no se si alguno de vosotros me podra ayuadar,el tema que en breve voy a viajar a New York,y me gustaria adquirir alli material policial a buen precio,conoceis alguna tienda,si es asi mandadme la direccion por favor.
Tambien me gustaria contactar con algun miembro de la NYPD para intercambiar material,asi qie si sabeis de algún foro,muchas gracias de ante mano.- 8-)


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Sobre el NYPD tienes un excelente hilo donde te cuentan de todo. Es este.

Hay una tienda oficial, Ender nos comentaba esto en el foro antiguo:

Ender escribió:
El NYPD tiene una tienda OFICIAL que esta en Manhattan sin poder decirte donde exactamente, con preguntarle a un poli de la zona y decirle que eres compi te indicará donde esta.
La prendas oficiales del NYPD tienen una etiqueta que pone NYPD EMBROIDERED, marca indiscutible de que es oficial.El color es un azul muy particular, casi morado y las prendas oficiales pueden ser mas caras pero de mucha mejor calidad, el NYPD es un simbolo registrado y patentado, desde mi punto de vista es mejor comprar lo original pq el dinero va al departamento y al prenda tiene mucho mejor acabado y una camiseta oficial te puede costar 15 leuros.

Aun asi ,por si la compi es de la Hermandad del Puño Agarrao puede encontrar 50 mil millones de puestos en Times Square donde venden de todo lo que tenga que ver con NY , NYPD o FDNY, pero la diferencia de precio no será tanta y si mucho la de calidad ; yo tengo ropa de los dos tipos y se nota bastante.

Te dejo el link de la tienda Oficial Online:
http://officialnycshop.com/index.asp?xcat2=CAT-CNY-NYPD

Tambien otra tienda que sin ser oficial tambien es de las mas visitadas desde el 11 de Septiembre , la mayoria de la ropa se refiere al 11 S , esta en el 17 de Greenwich Avenue , abren toda la semana y estan hasta las 7 de la tarde.

http://www.ny911.com/index.html


Recomiendo estas prendas de la tienda oficial, su escudo bordado esta muy bien confeccionado.

AVISO MUY IMPORTANTE, LA TALLA
Como mucho comprad una talla L, las XL os quedaran bien si sois del tamaño de GODZILLA, una talla o dos menos de la que gasteis!!!




Para contactar allí con policia y darte una vuelta, también nos comentaba esto:

Citar:
Serpico, otra cosa que se me olvida, el RIDE ALONG, el NYPD tiene un programa que permite acompañar a los agentes durante una patrulla, lo ideal es ir a un Precinct el primer dia de las vacaciones y pedirle al Desk Sgt que te haga el papeleo para un RD, probablemente en 24 horas se lo aprueben.
Si se lo aprueban vera Ny des una visual autentica, a lo mejor le ponen un agente hispano por el tema del idioma y seguramente se venga cargada de parches y de llaveros.

NOTA: Es una muestra de cortesia pagar la comida a los agentes, Donuts, Cafe, Taco Bell o lo que sea. Deu ut des.

El Ride Along es un programa oficial del NYPD que consiste en mostrar al publico un contacto mas cercanos con los agentes de la ley, en el podras ver algunas partes de las comisarias y patrullar durante unas horas con un par de policias , lo normal es que patrulles por una zona normalita, no creo que te metan en la comisaria de Fort Apache(bronx) o en el Alamo (zona negra de Housing Projects de Harlem).
Para ir en Ride Along( "montar juntos") debes solicitarlo al sargento del mostrador,si, como el que salia en Cancion Triste de Hill Street haciendo el pase de lista, firmar un documento para que luego no les demandes y ya te avisan ellos, lo mejor es hacerlo en cuanto llegues por si se retrasa.Te pondran en contacto con un chupatintas de Relaciones Publicas y a disfrutar, no olvides pagar el papeo!.
Te dejo el texto de la web oficial:

Civilian Observer Ride-Along Program
Ride-Along PDF
The Civilian Observer Ride Along Program provides the public with an opportunity to observe police officers on patrol. Members of the public ride with officers in a patrol car for approximately two hours, witnessing first hand what a police officer on patrol encounters during a tour of duty. The program is open to anyone with valid photo identification over the age of eighteen. This past year 1,657 local community members, university students, law enforcement officials, and visitors from the United States and abroad experienced what it takes to patrol with New York’s Finest.


Aqui te dejo algunos comentarios de un foro de Bobbys ingleses, los cuales flipan con cualquier fuerza policial que no sean ellos mismos y que lleven pistola,es un post de un bobby llamado Joey el cual viene flipando de NY donde hizo un ride along, tambien te pego los comentarios del resto para que veas lo que dicen, sino entiendes ni papa de perfido albion lo traduzco otro dia:

NYPD Ridealong, Amazing!!!

have not long been back from The Big Apple and whilst i was there i went on a ridealong with the NYPD.

Because they have a cop on most streets in the city, they dont really do much patroling...........some.........but not a lot.
We went to a few jobs, like a payment dispute at a restraunt and 4 men fighting at a basketball game.I was in the car most of the time but i saw it all anyway.
There are so many officers on duty, so we didnt go to that many jobs and i was only out for 4 hours anyway.
It was still an experiance of a lifetime and i would highly recommend it to anyone who is going to America and has not yet done it.
After the shift had finished i went for a few beers with their relief. That lasted slightly longer than 4 hours though

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there are 3-4 officers on every block intersection, and one every 20 mtrs at tourist areas. The traffic is so gridlocked there is no point in going out in a vehicle..
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have a lot of family in America and 2 of them are cops. I left it to them to arrange but if you just turned up they would be more than happy to take you out. I only did 4 hours because it was fairly quiet and there is so much more to do.

Tilly is right though, the traffic is madness. I saw one persuit in the city and that didnt last long.
There were a few on the outskirts though and in New Jersey. They show them live on TV
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Este es bastante interesante:

just recently got back from NYC after spending Christmas and New-Year there. As a guy trying to joing the PCSO's and ultimately the regulars I was interested in how the USA go about business.

*note these are my views and observations*
I may state the obvious which most of us already know but I will say anyway.

* The first thing I noticed, obviously was the guns. Which immediately stands out in your face.

* The respect they recieve from US people is quite unbelievable. They are highly respected and praised.

* A police officer on almost every street. Somewhere you will see a traffic cop, or a cop sitting in his car. The only place I didn't see one was in Central Park (but if memory serves they have 2 stations in the park).

* I was lucky? enough to see a dispute between a husband and wife outside of my hotel. As gun crime is such a problem in America around 4 cars with 2 officers each arrived to difuse the problem - guns ready.

* However one major thing I did notice that many came across as smug people, and really unapproachable if you required help.

* They also park their vehicles in the most bizzare places which I would say were were either dangerous locations (for other drivers) or just plain... silly.

* I saw a few arrests (around 7-10) all of which the suspect was laid on the floor (rain or shine) and cuffed, with or without struggling. From what I see police from the UK don't do so unless 100% necessary.

Has anyone else seen the US cops doing what they do? If so say what they do better/worse/similar etc.
Also are there any methods they use that we should adapt?

One thing that I would like to know is: I believe all American police wear bullet proof vests, but do the British police use stab vest or full kevlar bullet proof?
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There are many types of uniformed patrol, police,, traffic, comminuty.. and a taxi driver did explain the differences, but I was too busy ducking down behind the seat to take much notice...

One thing was though, I thought some officers didnt look as professional as the UK bobbies.. A bit slouchy, leaning up on walls, chewing gum etc... One the whole though, the quantity made up for the quality..
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Agreed. The stereotypical view of a cop drinking coffee and eating doughnuts is true. They sit on their car bonnits and smoke. Shirts not tucked in either. I'm not saying they are bad at their jobs but this was the main irregularity I saw.

I didn't take a yellow cab, simply because I'm a cheap skate and thier prices are worse than our black cabs. I generally walked the entire city. From Chinatown to Harlem twice a day then back to the Port Authority bus terminal.

One thing I did like was their equipment to keep warm. Head scalves, ear warmers etc which must help
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En Garde que es un tio muy apañao y al cual le he escrito varios post sobre la policia española (en el foro flipan pq dicen que damos mucha caña en España), total que En Garde dice que pq tanta obsesion con los americanos si se puede copiar el estilo frances , ESPAÑOL, etc:

while I admit it must be interesting to do a 'ride along' with a US police force for a day why do we have this obsession with the US police departments, why is always their polices and procedures that we ask if we should adopt?

why not the French, German, Spanish, Icelandic, Danish, Brazilian, New Zealand or wherever

you asked why we don’t spread eagle suspects on the floor and cuff them unless its 100% necessary? i have to say that I think you have answered your own question.

the rudeness you encounter i think may just be the 'New Yorker' coming out rather than US police in general.

in my opinion Londoners are rude (in general) and the same goes for the Met Police (the ones I have encountered) but its just the way they are.

too much rushing around and stress you see.
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Anyway, I've also noticed an apparrent obsession with the police in America from some on this forum and it does strike me as strange. Judging by their crime rates, I'm not sure the police in America are doing a better job than the police in the UK are. Some things are bound to be attractive of course, but there are most certainly drawbacks over there as well.

The handcuffing thing is presumably policy - it seems most police departments in the USA require that all prisoners are cuffed behind the back unless there's a very good reason not to, like a physical disability. I doubt they have a policy that says all prisoners have to lie on the ground to be cuffed, though!
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We have a policy on Sussex that anyone who is handcuffed is handcuffed to the rear. Not that every prisoner is handcuffed just that if they are, then they will be cuffed to the rear. Unless it’s a prisoner escort or something like that.

We certainly don’t ground pin every suspect and cuff them and I doubt very much if that was the NYPD policy.

I accept and that there is an increased risk of gun/gang crime in NY and police may act in a more cautious way which can only be a good thing

In my opinion, there does seem to be some slightly unhealthy obsessions with the US departments with gun-ho school boy attitudes to policing, maybe as a result of US cop shows
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Sometimes the British Police are their own worst enemy, I know that American Police Officers religeously carry their "tin" around with them, therefore verification would be easy, I do not know a single inspector who would object to giving a tour, in fact many I know would try and make a point of meeting up to fly the flag. I hope you told your mate that the police woman's behaviour was not indicative of the British Police Service.

A friend of mine who is in a local equivilant of the BTP, he got chatting to a BTP office at a train stations in London, the BTP bobby asked him to wait there a few minutes, he went to the officer and game back with laods of "goodies". End result good PR for the force, when there are so many people who love to hammer the police, I cant not understand why officers seem to be so happy to generate bad feeling and publicity.


Entre el hilo que te he puesto y esto creo que tienes bastante información :wink:

Un saludo


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muchas gracias compañero eres un autentico MAQUINA,lo solicitare del tirón lo malo es que voy con la parienta pero bueno se tendra que venir,esto me imagino que se solicita en cualquier comisaria??


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Supongo que sí.

Por cierto, no me había fijado, curioso nick llevas...


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hombre 101....es de todo menos curioso :-(

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Una forma como otra cualquiera de decirlo la mía, lo decía en tu sentido. Claro.

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Hola amigos,sabeis cuanto tiempo dura El Ride Along,muchas gracias.-

lo del nik no lo cojo,supongo que todos tenemos apellidos y no tengo mas que deciros,si no os gusta lo siento.-


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Bueno, tienes el mismo apellido que uno de los nazis mas sanguinarios que existieron...

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Por eso lo decía pero doy por buena tu contestación Mengele..y si ése es tu apellido..adelante con el!!
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